I should point out that whereas you imply that excess deaths during previous “pandemics” were all viral in nature, everything I read suggests they also contained iatrogenic elements, either wholly or in part.
I agree with you from 1918 onward, because the Spanish Flu had all the "bells-and-whistles" of a military operation instead of being a natural pandemic.
Tell me more. After seeing this with Covid-19 and understanding the origin of Lyme disease, I am ready to learn about the latrogenic elements of the 1918 deaths commonly referred to as the Spanish flu.
I'll make it an article, but the 30,000-foot-view is that
--it was primarily military males, and
--crowding was associated with increasing virulence, and
--the US Army Surgeon General appealed to the US Senate about the crowding, and
--the eugenics-friendly Wilson Administration fired the Army Surgeon General -- presumably so that they could continue crowding infected soldiers without some pesky Army Surgeon General pointing out how they actually were fueling the pandemic
It was latrogenic. This high incidence of death attributed to Covid-19 quickly reached New York but skipped over most of Italy, and was concentrated in just 3 small statistical jurisdictions. I don’t like the conclusions of the this group, but they have the best data and I have verified it with the Italian sources.
On March 13, 2020 there were 1,016 reports of deaths attributed to Covid-19 in Italy and more than 75% of them were in the region of Lombardy. Two months later, on May 14, 2020, there were 29,693 deaths attributed to Covid-19 with more than half of them occurring in Lombardy. By this time, every State in the United States had reported Covid-19 deaths. The deaths per million people in each of region Italy (estimated using 2023 Wikipedia population figures) as of May 14, 2020 are fascinating, ranging from 1,400+ in Lombardy to under 50 deaths per million inhabitants in Calabria and Basilica, with Lazio region where Rome is located reporting about 100 deaths from COVID-19 per million inhabitants as of May 14, 2020. That is why I argued that the death rate in Lombardy has a significant latrogenic component.
For reference in New York City with an estimated population of 8,804,170 people on April 1, 2020 there was - COVID-19 death on March 13 (it was reported on March 11) for .1 deaths per million. On April 13, there were 12,208 deaths attributed to Covid-19 for 1,387 so-called covid-19 deaths per million people, and on May 14, there were 21,502 Covid-19 deaths or 2,442 Covid-19 deaths per million people.
The media told us that Covid-19 went from Italy to New York, but it never mentioned that the region containing Rome only experienced 100 Covid-19 deaths per million people and Sicily only experienced 55 Covid-19 deaths per million people. Italy was presented as one statistical unit with about 500 deaths per million people as of the whole country experienced the same phenomenon. That was not the case.
We need to look at what happened in the hospitals and nursing homes. There are differences and similarities between Italy, England, and the United States.
The use of remdesivir (in the United States), ventilators, midazolam, morphine, as well as the refusal to use antibiotics, steroids, hydration, and feeding tubes have a huge impact on mortality rates. In England, these techniques are often referred to as the Liverpool pathway. I am not sure what happened in Lombardy, but it was clearly different than what was happening in Rome.
Thanks for the mention.
I should point out that whereas you imply that excess deaths during previous “pandemics” were all viral in nature, everything I read suggests they also contained iatrogenic elements, either wholly or in part.
I agree with you from 1918 onward, because the Spanish Flu had all the "bells-and-whistles" of a military operation instead of being a natural pandemic.
Hardly anyone died of flu during Spanish Flu.
Tell me more. After seeing this with Covid-19 and understanding the origin of Lyme disease, I am ready to learn about the latrogenic elements of the 1918 deaths commonly referred to as the Spanish flu.
I'll make it an article, but the 30,000-foot-view is that
--it was primarily military males, and
--crowding was associated with increasing virulence, and
--the US Army Surgeon General appealed to the US Senate about the crowding, and
--the eugenics-friendly Wilson Administration fired the Army Surgeon General -- presumably so that they could continue crowding infected soldiers without some pesky Army Surgeon General pointing out how they actually were fueling the pandemic
Thanks
It was latrogenic. This high incidence of death attributed to Covid-19 quickly reached New York but skipped over most of Italy, and was concentrated in just 3 small statistical jurisdictions. I don’t like the conclusions of the this group, but they have the best data and I have verified it with the Italian sources.
https://healthfreedomdefense.org/italy-2020-the-preposterous-pandemic/
https://healthfreedomdefense.org/italy-2020-inside-covids-ground-zero-was-there-really-a-pandemic/
On March 13, 2020 there were 1,016 reports of deaths attributed to Covid-19 in Italy and more than 75% of them were in the region of Lombardy. Two months later, on May 14, 2020, there were 29,693 deaths attributed to Covid-19 with more than half of them occurring in Lombardy. By this time, every State in the United States had reported Covid-19 deaths. The deaths per million people in each of region Italy (estimated using 2023 Wikipedia population figures) as of May 14, 2020 are fascinating, ranging from 1,400+ in Lombardy to under 50 deaths per million inhabitants in Calabria and Basilica, with Lazio region where Rome is located reporting about 100 deaths from COVID-19 per million inhabitants as of May 14, 2020. That is why I argued that the death rate in Lombardy has a significant latrogenic component.
For reference in New York City with an estimated population of 8,804,170 people on April 1, 2020 there was - COVID-19 death on March 13 (it was reported on March 11) for .1 deaths per million. On April 13, there were 12,208 deaths attributed to Covid-19 for 1,387 so-called covid-19 deaths per million people, and on May 14, there were 21,502 Covid-19 deaths or 2,442 Covid-19 deaths per million people.
The media told us that Covid-19 went from Italy to New York, but it never mentioned that the region containing Rome only experienced 100 Covid-19 deaths per million people and Sicily only experienced 55 Covid-19 deaths per million people. Italy was presented as one statistical unit with about 500 deaths per million people as of the whole country experienced the same phenomenon. That was not the case.
We need to look at what happened in the hospitals and nursing homes. There are differences and similarities between Italy, England, and the United States.
The use of remdesivir (in the United States), ventilators, midazolam, morphine, as well as the refusal to use antibiotics, steroids, hydration, and feeding tubes have a huge impact on mortality rates. In England, these techniques are often referred to as the Liverpool pathway. I am not sure what happened in Lombardy, but it was clearly different than what was happening in Rome.